I'll answer my own question with they're a bunch of sick fuckers on the same level as pedophile priests except these degenerates prey on little girls. Look at this.
State education officials say sexual misconduct by teachers is the No. 1 reason Utah educators are forced to surrender their licenses.
This is totally sick shit - fuck these people. Then there's the trial.
The first of a dozen polygamist sect members charged with abuse of women is set to stand trial Monday, 18 months after agents raided the group's remote ranch and carted off more than 400 children in the largest child custody case in American history.
You betcha slugs - what is it you don't understand about this. Whether you're a Mormon or a Catholic it is a norm in the society we live in that you do not mess around with young girls and boys! It's that simple you low-life bastards.
Organized religion - the path to stupidity and closed minds but they wear their badge proudly.
Sheez!
12* this morning
You're a fool. You cite a story about Utah ''educators'' but how do you know they are either Men or Mormon? I live in Utah and I can assure you there are more women educators having relationships that men and out of those (maybe 3 in the last 10 years) men I know of only 1 who is a Mormon. I can guarantee you that he's not a Mormon anymore. The LDS Church would excommunicate him six ways to Sunday.
ReplyDeleteThe next segment you cite is related to a polygamist sect of Fundamentalists who HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the LDS Church in Salt Lake City. That's like blaming a Catholic for something a Protestant did. I thought this was general knowledge but I guess we still have some highly ignorant bloggers out there still.
Furthermore, even if there are Catholic or LDS men who have broken laws and had innappropriate relationships, how do their actions represent every member of their Church? The words; bigot, prejudgement , and ignorance come to mind.
Is it also fair to take the actions of the homosexual Duke University professor who molested his adopted son for 5 years (including soliciting other homosexual men to join in molesting the boy via internet chat rooms) and conclude that ALL homosexuals are child molesters?
Bottom line; if you're going to pick a fight with Mormons, then pick a fight with them. Don't pick a fight with non Mormons and try and act like you have a clue what your talking about.
Relvis has a point. Too many assumptions made because this is Utah.
ReplyDeleteI'm a fool- I don't think so. Chances are you could be one of the sick fucks out there trying to cover your tracks with-not me not me or not them and not here cuz we are believers..
ReplyDeleteYou think that in the jerk water towns out in bum fuck Egypt Utah they hire non mormonies to teach the kids. Who are you trying to shit cept yourself.
So the multiple little girls who are the wives of men have nothing to do with the main body of da church. Bullshit-just because the church split back there along the river doesn't mean polygamy ended there as well because it did not. Just like Benny the Rat saying priests are bad for screwing young boys it still continues.
There is no invisible cloud being who snapped his fingers and created all. The world is full of seriously deranged mind fucked people who believe in the impossible and with some who enjoy having sex with little girls and boys.
That is sick shit.
As a Mormon male (other memebers will disagree with me; but, that is ok) I will tell you to....
ReplyDeleteSTFU!!!!!!!!
Relvis - How can you stop someone being a Mormon? By excommunicating him? Not likely, he can still call himself a Mormon, still go to Mormon services, unless there is Mormon police force that checks IDs at the door, perhaps he cannot get into the double secret higher echelons of Mormondom, but he is still a Mormon, whether he is a pevert or not.
ReplyDeleteOne Fly, You're an imbecile. If you made a logical argument you might get someone to agree with you. Who's to say you're not a child molester?
ReplyDeleteHere's some advice for your next post.
1- Cite some examples (even one example would help.)
2- Show some actual evidence besides an anti-religion rant laden with vulgarity.
3- When you get exposed for the ignorant fool you are, don't resort to exposing your obvious bigotry for Utahns, Mormons, and anyone who is religious.
4- Pick a subject that you actually know something about. i.e. swearing, insecurity, anger, lack of self control.
It's easy to stand against something when you stand for nothing. Who are you One Fly? Just another pile of meat and bones with an opinion.
Holte Ender,
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?index=5&locale=0&sourceId=924bec6f164b2110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD
Hopefully this answers your question.
"The world is full of seriously deranged mind fucked people who believe in the impossible and with some who enjoy having sex with little girls and boys."
ReplyDeleteI think One Fly meets the criteria completely. Here's my diagnosis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
Utah, Scmutah- These illiegal acts by splinter groups within the Mormon hierarchy have been "overlooked" throughout the Southwest and West for well over a hundred years. The arranged marriages among the Church leaders to young girls in Texas, Arizona, Utah, Idaho and in the western provinces of Canada are very well documented by official court documents in the various legal systems. Mormons may only be "separatists" in their desire to practise their beliefs in exclusive communities or communes. But within these exclusive communities well established state and national laws are broken, in a very disturbing way, with the implicit foreknowledge of the citizenry. So, the larger Mormon hierarchy looks the other way, just as the Catholic church did when it comes to breaking the law and fracturing well established social mores. This is the larger point: the old "wink and nod" these religious organizations pay to the nations asked to protect everyones' rights under the law. The country will not long survive if " separate and unequal" rights are the law of the land in some areas of this country. We also have a deeper moral obligation to children, under a certain age, as a nation. The fact that this is still an issue well into the 21st century speaks volumes about the assimilation, or lack thereof, among religious oranizations who wish to "practise their religion" under our Constitution. Having sex with children under the guise of individual religious freedom is wrong. Furthermore, the Mormon Church has a very troubling past to those who look just beyond the surface. Until the 1970's blacks couldn't be students at BYU and it was a "football" revelation that ended this tradition. This is the equivalent of Hassidic Jews changing their worship practises so more of their members could go to Yankees games. It is the hypocracy of the Mormons and their desire to set up an oligarchy in the western United States that concerns many. Until the LDS, and for that matter the Catholic Church and its' members, clean up their messes they will remain under suspicion and legal scrutiny. To site homosexual abuse of children is a canard, at best, since homosexuals do not practise under the banner of organized and protected religious rights of worship. The old saw about " there are good Mormons and bad Mormons" fails the smell test when their leaders look the other way to the ongoing abuse, through marriage, of children. Neither does the Catholic Church leadership with the abuse of its' children and the coverup by its' nuns and priests. For all of us in this country to feel safe, secure and equal under the law is what the articles were trying to point out: OTC has every right to publish his views under the 1st Amendment and to compare and contrast two powerful and political and religious institutions and " sunshine" is still the best disinfectant in a Democractic Republic such as ours.
ReplyDeletePS:- I post regularly here and it is highly ironic to see the comments of those who disagree with the sentiments expressed revert to namecalling and " shoutdowns". As for posting relevent historical facts about this is redundant: my newspapers and reading materials are cluttered up with this garbage almost weekly. Like all large institutions Mormons who voluntarily ascribe to the tenets of the church "own the sick behavior of their members, more or less." I really could care less what fools believe when they reach adulthood, but underage children being sexually molested under the guise of religious belief, in my America, is a perversion of the Constitution and violates the " separation of church and state" when it is condoned by any community that flies our flag from its' city hall or schools. Don't get me pissed off this early in the morning about these two institutions or I'll skip the niceties of civil discourse and tell you what I really think of this bullshit.
ReplyDeleteIn response to the post above, first can I say it's nice to have at least a semi-legitimate argument even though it has very little merit.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all let me make this clear because it still seems to be perpetuated as correct:
THE LDS CHURCH HEADQUARTERED IN SALT LAKE CITY HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SO-CALLED FLDS SPLINTER GROUPS IN TEXAS AND CANADA!
That being said, what should one Church do to stop the illegal activity of another Church? Should 7th Day Adventists wage war on the Catholic Church because some of their priest are pedophiles? The most any Church can do is excommunicate the lawbreaking member and refer them to civil authorities for legal punishment. The U.S. Gov. is not a theocracy. Why should the LDS Church in Salt Lake be responsible to punish the so-called FLDS's actions? They are completely separate entities. How are the LDS going to excommunicate FLDS when they aren't even members of their Church. It's like the Mormon Prophet trying to excommunicate the Pope. You make no sense in your argument. To try and tie them together as one in the same is either evidence of your ignorance or misleading and dishonest. Which is it? If in fact your post is referring solely to the FLDS Church then you should make the distinction.
You then proceed to talk about the LDS Church's history of Blacks and the Priesthood as if it was just an issue of building a better football team. Are you honestly hoping that we take you seriously? Where is the evidence of this? Do you have a single scrap of evidence to back this up? Your theory is as credible as me saying that the emancipation proclamation was drafted so that slaves could play in the NBA. Did you make that theory up or did you steal it out of Mike Huckabee's playbook?
I think it's obvious by your final statements that you have an axe to grind over the LDS position on gay marriage. The irony is that you cite the 1st amendment and then act as if Mormons did something out-of-line by voting their conscience in a "democratic republic". If you want to see an infringement on the 1st amendment watch the video footage of militant homosexuals bullying and vandalizing LDS members and interest because they voted for what they believed. You may not agree with Mormons, but you will not stop them from voting and supporting traditional marriage through intimidation.
I post regularly here and it is highly ironic to see the comments of those who disagree with the sentiments expressed revert to namecalling and " shoutdowns"
ReplyDeleteKind of like referring to relious people as: "deranged mind fucked people"?
I think it's obvious whose guilty of namecalling and shoutdowns. Furthermore the "sentiments" are complete lies. By showing how ignorant the author is by presenting facts does not equate to namecalling and shoutdowns.
Let's tweak your statement a bit...
Like all large institutions LBGT's who voluntarily ascribe to the tenets of the Homosexual agenda "own the sick behavior of their members (child molestation for one), more or less."
"underage children being sexually molested under the guise of religious belief, in my America, is a perversion of the Constitution and violates the " separation of church and state"
The author accused the LDS Church of supporting child abuse and you just think that's ok? It's complete nonsense and I've got every right in the world to point out the ignorance of the author. If you want to accuse "Mormon Males" of something like child abuse you better have some facts to back it up. Otherwise like the gentleman said earlier....STFU.
After a consultation with my Mormon com-padre I stick with the following.
ReplyDeleteTeach school in Utah you're going to be Mormon
Polygamy still is practiced where it can be gotten away with.
Ask the locals of what they think of you in Nauvoo.
You Mormon posters who think you're being picked on are full of shit and are wrong. You'll not win this debate here.
Whether its Catholics or Mormons you are all child molesters.
I agree with those who have said this article is foolish beyond words. Just when I think people can't write anything stupider, an article like this comes along...
ReplyDeleteAnon. - Your link did nothing to convince me or answer my question, how can you stop a man calling himself a Mormon and going to Mormon churches.
ReplyDeleteWhere is the proof in the court decisions for the last 100 years or so that " child molesters...er, polygamists have been referred to cival authorities" in the numerous comunities they inhabit in the aforementioned states and countries. I doubt they represent more than 1% of the actual abuse taking place. Start policing your own as thoroughly as the LBGT community does when it comes to pedophilia and I might be impressed with your passionate defense of the indefensible. Also, the splinter groups among the Catholic Church, Episcopalians and Anglicans, don't sanction child abuse in therir religious practises as far as I know. Maybe speaking out against the abuses of the Catholic Church and reporting of same whenever it is exposed isn't enough for the likes of you " pedophile enablers". Furthermore, I never comingled Blacks and the Priesthood, YOU DID. I merely pointed a well established fact among athletic depts. throughout the nation. I have no doubt the Emancipation Proclamation would have been signed earlier had there been an NBA at our countries' founding. I'm sure we'd all feel better if Larry Miller's name had replaced Ben Franklins': don't start an argument unless you can finish it. Finally, the only thing I have in common with Mr. Huckabee is that we share the letter "e" in our name. Telling me to STFU and assuming I support a wacko like "the Huckster" shows how gutless and puny the defenders of child molestation are. P.S. I was a scholar- athlete under the 1st black head coach in NCAA history and played with and against many great black athletes. When they joked around they often said it would be easier to get in the Baseball Black Hall of Fame than to get into BYU. You can still try to fool most of the people most of the time but the facts on the ground show you to be propagandists, pure and simple.
ReplyDeleteYou Mormon men who feel picked on can fill out a hurt feelings report later if I can find it.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who comes here knows how nasty benny the rat and the raper of boys priests get treated.
The get it because nothing less would be an injustice. There is nothing nice about the rape of minors and you will not see nice here concerning that.
And you big boy Mormons sure as hell don't get a pass because it's the same thing as the pious can do no wrong Catholics that sit in their fancy churches and look the other way as the rape of boys by priests continue because the rat does nothing to stop it but open his pie hole.
Deny all you want but polygamy continues with you people and your just as bad as the hypocrites in the other church because you look away from the rape that is being perpetrated on young brainwashed girls.
Who knows maybe some of you ano's are the culprits. I state again and you can deny all you want but if you teach school in Utah you're gonna be Mormon.
"You Mormon men who feel picked on can fill out a hurt feelings report later if I can find it."
ReplyDeleteI don't feel picked on by you any more than I feel picked on by a 3 year old. You're simply not intellectually in the realm of someone I can be picked on by. You're a liar and a moron and that's all there is to it. 97 percent of what you've posted here is a lie, and 100 percent of it qualifies as the stupidest post I've ever seen on the internet, ever.
To all Pedophile Enablers- Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. You just got your scrawny Mormon asses kicked all over the field of reality, just like the overrated BYU teams do, and now you want to pick up your puny balls and run to the Tabernacle, go figure. Don't bring The Book of Mormon to a Constitutional Knifefight.
ReplyDeleteA fool is thought wise when he holds his tongue. But when he opens his mouth, he removes all doubt.
ReplyDeleteWow, OneFly. You are definitely the most intellectually stunted person on the web. Not only your reasoning betrays you, but your vocabulary as well.
I've hit the mother load nerve that goes straight to the command center of denial for mormonies.
ReplyDeleteWhere are all those fact-based arguments you were wondering about now in your responses in Comments. You quote some old saw saying from ancient history that belongs in a freshman Interpretive Literature course. When you have no answers your fall back position is the same as your Church, splinter groups included, which is: the "oh, poor misguided, ignorant heretics and blasphemers abound in the land of Mormania and we must endure. Pass me another 13 yr.old and some lube, she could be a tight one."
ReplyDeleteNo way to know if the offenders in Utah are Mormon.
ReplyDeleteAn Associated Press article last year (from http://m.vcstar.com/news/2008/Nov/29/religion-news/ ):
"Mormon Population Shrinks Slightly
"An Associated Press analysis of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership records used by state planning officials to develop population estimates shows that Mormons now make up 60.4 percent of the state's population. That's down from 60.7 percent last year.
"The percentage has declined every year for nearly two decades, and if the trend continues Mormons will make up less than half of Utah's population by 2030.
"In Salt Lake County, the state's most populous county and home to church headquarters, Mormons are barely holding onto their majority, making up 50.6 percent of the population."
Could the reason #'s are declining be because those with a brain are seeing the light somewhere else?
ReplyDeleteNo those statistics aren't there but it is safe to say some of the offenders are Mormon.
Holte Ender said...
ReplyDelete"Anon. - Your link did nothing to convince me or answer my question, how can you stop a man calling himself a Mormon and going to Mormon churches."
Let me answer your question with a question:
If a Doctor loses his license for malpractice how can you stop him calling himself a Doctor?
I guess you can't stop him from calling himself something but you can restrict him from practicing medicine, just like you can restrict an excommunicated Mormon from participating in Church functions reserved for those in good standing.
One Fly, are you for real? I can't help but think you are just trolling your own post to get a reaction from Mormons. Either that or you are one of the most incendiary, uneducated, bigots I've ever come across. What's the difference between your attitude toward Mormons and the Iranians attitude toward Jews?
ReplyDeleteIronically one of the pictures on your blog of "Chevy Man" (posted below) was drawn by a "Mormon Male", Ed 'Big Daddy' Roth. You better take it down so we don't affiliate you with child molesters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Roth
Don't change the subject monkey - that shit don't work here.
ReplyDeleteWho knows maybe he did now that you mention it. That would be a disappointment.
Never was it said Mormons are not able to contribute.
What can be said is polygamy is still practiced and just like Catholics you both look away from the horror in your closets.
You religious nutters get your mind right and accept Reality and if you can't come back with at least a half ass attempt of admitting your failings we'll disable ano comments because it has grown old such mean talk from what must be some church elders.
Where be da luv for others no matter who or how bad they may be?
Silly me - the rules have changed these days haven't they to suit making religious hate legal.
Neither Jews or Iranian is relavent because here the discussion centers around pedophilia by religious leaders: more exactly by leaders who persist in these actions in violation of state and national laws established under the Constitution. Also, in Iran and Isreal there are sects of Christian and other churches who do not allow plural marriage with female children. They don't avert their eyes to this practise within their communities, either. Besides, America isn't either of these countries and Mormons know what they would face if they proselitized in those regions of the world carrying this message. Quit trying to trash the website by falsely accusing OTC of trolling. No one on your side answered the questions posed in Comments. Demographic statistics can be interesting but barnyard practises rarely occur where there are no barns. Let's hope that going forward Mormons of all stripes will concentrate their mind fucking in a monogamous relationship sanctioned by civil law with a consenting adult. Speaking for myself I don't care if the adults are of the same sex but that wasn't the point of the posting. Get real or back off.
ReplyDeleteOne Fly, facts instead of unnecessary swearing is all we ask for. Otherwise your article is nothing but pewtrid vomit.
ReplyDeleteGame over nutters. Cry and whine amongst yourselves somewhere else about how bad you got treated over at OF's place. Stay away from the teenies and just remember collared ones - people are paying a bit more attention to any possible abuse by priests.
ReplyDeleteOr it could just be that everyone pays attention when a church leader abuses a boy and no one gives a damn when any other demographic group does it.
ReplyDeleteThat couldn't be it, could it?
Anon. You can't compare being a Mormon to being a doctor, you don't have to have a license to be a Mormon do you? It doesn't take 8 to 10 years of college to be a Mormon either. It seems any ignoramus can be one.
ReplyDeleteNo Seth that would not be it. Go somewhere else and play your picked on card.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in my late teens, I thought about joining the LDS - until I realized it wasn't an organization of dyslexic drug dealers.
ReplyDeleteWhat can you expect from loony-tunes cult members ?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDelete"To all Pedophile Enablers"
A false premise:
1. Because the #1 reason for di-licensing a teacher is sexual misconduct in Utah, all mormon males are pedophiles.
The problem of child abuse within the LDS church is not more than outside..or I couldn't find any stats to say so..did you? I did find a study naming the demographics of child abuse early in my search. At the top of the list is:
"The safest family environment for a child is a home in which the biological parents are married. Contrary to current theory about the effects of marriage on children, recent research demonstrates that marriage provides a safe environment for all family members, one in which child abuse and fatality are lowered dramatically"
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.a-team.org/nav01/im_02_bg1115b.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.a-team.org/child_abuse_statistics.html&usg=__voX9ZQUAepFvubln-XSCVTgBB24=&h=418&w=500&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&sig2=b74w5A3KG71PRcg_-OEgYQ&um=1&tbnid=Yu16jhYwTC9DfM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchild%2Babuse%2Bstatistics%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DRNWE,RNWE:2006-28,RNWE:en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=8AfoSvPBIZmktgPjlM2kBQ
Any cultured person, as you all are, would know, mormons are really big on families, so big that the leaders wrote out a document as to where they stand.
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html
Surely some of the teachers di-licensed were mormons at the time, but how many? The best you can do is go by mormon population density..but now there's only more teachers who sexually misconducted themselves who are mormon cause there are more mormons...your case banks off of that actual percentage. If Utah is %60 percent mormon and %60 of teachers nabbed were mormon, then they're no different. If the percentage is more or less, it reflects the depth of the problem. We could sure use that percentage.
You also equate sexual misconduct with child molestation. Define sexual misconduct..my CA highschool principle was fired after being caught with one of the other teachers...im sure utah is just as strict.
One Fly
Nobody's crying..you don't connect your opinions with facts and therefore fail to pursuade those not already hardened to your side.